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How Do We Use the Law Today?

Israel’s laws were meant to form them into people of wisdom who lived differently than the nations around them. But what wisdom can Christians gain from the law? In this episode, listen in as Tim and Jon discuss the wisdom the apostles gleaned from the law.

Episode 5
54m
Oct 31, 2022
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When God gives the gifts of Eden, they’re given in a way that is both for you and for your neighbor … Paul’s mind is on these themes of God’s Eden provision when he writes to the Corinthians. So even though he doesn’t quote Deuteronomy 15, he would meditate on it and conclude that if Israel was obedient to the laws, they would get Eden blessings so that there would be no poor among them. And even though that’s not the world we live in now, we could approximate it. We could taste it.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • The second movement of Deuteronomy contains two collections of laws. The laws in Deuteronomy 12-18 focus on maintaining a right relationship between Israel and God, while Deuteronomy 19-25 focuses on interpersonal relationships within Israel.
  • The law affords us an opportunity to examine our own allegiances to other spiritual powers including idolatry of money, power, sex, sexuality, and so on.
  • Living by the principles and wisdom of the law is meant to create a glimpse of Eden within our present reality.

Laws for Israel’s Relationship With Yahweh

In part one (00:00-13:40), Tim and Jon review our last conversation where we discussed the law as wisdom. The goal of the law was not to create perfect people but wise people. Because our modern context is far removed from the ancient context in which the laws were written, it takes time and careful study to glean wisdom from the law. When we live by the wisdom of the Torah, we create glimpses of Eden in present reality.

The second movement of Deuteronomy contains two collections of laws. The laws in Deuteronomy 12-18 focus on maintaining a right relationship between Israel and God, while Deuteronomy 19-25 focuses on interpersonal relationships within Israel.

In Deuteronomy 12, Yahweh commands Israel to destroy all shrines dedicated to Canaanite gods. After the people destroyed the shrines, Yahweh would choose a central place of worship for himself, the end goal being that Canaan would resemble the garden of Eden.

The Wisdom of the Apostles

In part two (13:40-29:00), Tim and Jon discuss this commandment to destroy other places of worship. If the law is wisdom literature, what wisdom should we glean from commandments like this one?

One principle we can learn is that anything devoted to the worship of another spiritual being should have no place among God’s people. Yahweh intended for Canaan to become like Eden with his dwelling place at the center.

So why didn’t the apostles tell the first churches to destroy neighboring idol shrines? It seems that the New Testament authors didn’t see this as a priority for followers of Jesus. However, Paul encouraged the Corinthians to use discernment when choosing whether or not to eat meat sacrificed to idols, and he does indicate that there should at least be one zone completely free of anything having to do with other deities. This left space for people to be in different places in their journeys with Jesus and still be able to work together.

Paul doesn’t seem to view commandments for conquest as justification for tearing down idol shrines. However, he does exercise protectiveness over the local church, even advocating for the removal of a man committing incest in 1 Corinthians 5 (with the hope that he will repent of his sin and eventually rejoin the congregation).

In a modern context, Deuteronomy 12 affords us an opportunity to examine our own allegiances to other spiritual powers including idolatry of money, power, sex, sexuality, and so on.

A Taste of Eden

In part three (29:00-43:30), Tim and Jon jump ahead to Deuteronomy 15, where Yahweh commands Israel to cancel all debts every seven years. The seventh year was called the Year of Release, and after seven of those, the Year of Jubilee would occur.

This was another way Israel was meant to live differently than the surrounding nations. The Israelites’ way of loaning money would be totally different. They were commanded not to charge interest on loans because, over time, this would create severe disadvantages and societal imbalances. If they could follow these financial principles, there would be no reason for anyone to be significantly poorer than anyone else (Deut. 15:4).

Even though that’s not the world we live in (nor did the Israelites actually live this out in a way that created an Edenic reality), we see examples of this kind of generous, shared living in the accounts of the early Church in Acts. If we were to live by these principles, we’d get at least a taste of Eden in our present reality.

The Law Changes How We See

In part four (43:30-53:55), the guys discuss how the apostles incorporated principles from the Torah into their governance of the first churches.

As we’ve seen on numerous occasions through our study of the Torah, there will always be situations not anticipated by the law, which God’s people will need wisdom to navigate. However, when we meditate on the law, our relationship with the world will change. For instance, while we may not celebrate the Year of Release and the Year of Jubilee, we should be detached enough from our possessions to be willing to part with them for the good of another. When we see it as wisdom literature, the law will reshape how we see the world and the way we are to live within it.

Referenced Resources

  • Created Equal: How the Bible Broke with Ancient Political Thought, Joshua A. Berman
  • Interested in more? Check out Tim’s library here.
  • You can experience the literary themes and movements we’re tracing on the podcast in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.

Show Music

  • “Defender (Instrumental)” by TENTS
  • “Conquer” by Beautiful Eulogy
  • “Into the Past” by C Y G N
  • “Where Peace and Rest Are Found” by Greyflood

Show produced by Cooper Peltz with Associate Producer Lindsey Ponder. Edited by Dan Gummel, Tyler Bailey, and Frank Garza. Podcast annotations for the BibleProject app by Hannah Woo.

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Scripture References
Genesis 2
Exodus 32
Genesis 1:1
Matthew 12:6
Matthew 18:20
Deuteronomy 15
Numbers 25
Deuteronomy 12-18
Deuteronomy 19-25
Deuteronomy 12
Deuteronomy 12-25
Deuteronomy 12:1-3
Deuteronomy 12:4-5
1 Corinthians 10
1 Corinthians 3:16-18
1 Corinthians 5
Romans 12:2
Acts 2-6
Deuteronomy 15:1-6
Deuteronomy 15:7-11
2 Corinthians 8-10
2 Corinthians 8:14
Exodus 16:18
Deuteronomy 15:7-8
Matthew 28:18-19
Matthew 5:43-44
1 Corinthians 10:14-33
John 2:21

12 Episodes

Episode 12
Simkhat Torah: Celebrating a Year of Reading
When a Jewish synagogue finishes reading through the Torah together, they celebrate Simkhat Torah. What is Simkhat Torah? Find out on today’s episode as Jon and Tim reflect on our year-long journey through the Torah and look ahead to the rest of the TaNaK.
1hr 16m • Dec 19, 2022
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Episode 11
When Do Words Become a Blessing?
How do we know the biblical authors intended to link certain words and stories? When do someone’s words become a blessing? How do sacrifices actually atone for sins? In this episode, Tim and Jon respond to audience questions from a year’s worth of conversations about the Torah. Thank you to our audience for your questions!
1hr 4m • Dec 12, 2022
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Episode 10
Which Laws Still Apply?
Which ancient Israelite laws still apply today and which don’t? Should the law be divided into moral, civil, and ceremonial categories? And why did Jesus quote Deuteronomy when Satan tempted him? In this episode, Tim and Jon respond to audience questions about the Deuteronomy scroll. Thanks to our incredible audience for your questions.
59m • Dec 5, 2022
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Episode 9
Moses’ Final Words
Who are Yahweh’s children? For most of the Torah, the answer seems to be all of Israel. But in his final moments, Moses tells Israel that Yahweh’s true children are those who remain faithful to his covenant. In the final episode of our journey through the Torah, join Tim and Jon as they explore a prophetic poem that will set the tone for the rest of the TaNaK.
1hr 20m • Nov 28, 2022
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Episode 8
Can Anyone Live a Blessed Life?
Moses gives the least motivating pep talk ever in the third movement of Deuteronomy. He outlines God’s covenant and the various blessings and curses associated with it, and then he tells Israel, “You’re going to fail.” Talk about demoralizing! In this episode, join Tim and Jon as they explore the paradox of righteousness accomplished by divine sovereignty and human freedom through the lens of Deuteronomy and the New Testament writers.
1hr 27m • Nov 21, 2022
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Episode 7
Covenant Curses
In the final movement of Deuteronomy, there’s a pretty lengthy list of curses that will fall upon Israel if they break their covenant with Yahweh. But what exactly is a curse? Why are there so many of them, and what do they have to do with Israel’s covenant with Yahweh? In this episode, Tim and Jon talk about blessings and curses, ancient Near Eastern law code, and the choice all humans have between death or life.
59m • Nov 14, 2022
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Episode 6
Jesus, Marriage, and the Law
The Pharisees frequently tested Jesus on his knowledge of the law, and in Matthew 19, they grill him on a particularly challenging law about divorce. In this episode, join Tim and Jon as they wrap up the second movement of Deuteronomy by exploring Jesus’ understanding of the law and how it can help us interpret the Torah.
1hr 10m • Nov 7, 2022
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Episode 5
How Do We Use the Law Today?
Israel’s laws were meant to form them into people of wisdom who lived differently than the nations around them. But what wisdom can Christians gain from the law? In this episode, listen in as Tim and Jon discuss the wisdom the apostles gleaned from the law.
54m • Oct 31, 2022
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Episode 4
The Law … Again
In the second movement of Deuteronomy, Moses gives Israel the law … again. But this time, he’s not talking to a nomadic group of people wandering the desert—he’s talking to the next generation preparing to settle in a permanent home for the first time. As they move into the land, their laws and their lives will need to look a little different. But in what way? In this episode, join Tim and Jon as they discuss how the law was always meant to form Israel (and modern readers) into people of wisdom, justice, and righteousness.
1hr 14m • Oct 24, 2022
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Episode 3
Giants and Justice
In this episode, we once again encounter the Nephilim, the evil demon-human hybrid beings we first met in Genesis 6. Now they resurface as giants inhabiting Canaan, the land Yahweh promised to Israel. Join Tim and Jon as they tackle the complex issues of violent conquest, human and spiritual evil, and divine justice.
1hr 13m • Oct 17, 2022
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Episode 2
The Way to True Life
In the first movement of Deuteronomy, two words appear more frequently than any others—listen and love. Why did Moses emphasize these two words in his farewell speech to Israel? In this episode, Tim and Jon explore what it looks like to be loyal to Yahweh, the God unlike any other, who listens to humanity.
1hr 6m • Oct 10, 2022
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Episode 1
What’s the Point of Deuteronomy?
Have you ever wondered where the earliest sermons in the Bible are found? Moses’ final speech to Israel, found in Deuteronomy, is the first time we see what is essentially a modern sermon—a long speech meant to communicate God’s truth. Just as Israel is about to enter the promised land, Moses reminds them that, just like their ancestors, they have the choice to live by their own wisdom or to follow Yahweh’s life-giving commands. Join Tim and Jon as they dive into the final scroll of the Torah and explore the choice before Israel—and the choice we face today too.
1hr 3m • Oct 3, 2022
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